Troubles to get started with SD240 Retrofit
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15 Jan 2024 17:45 #290776
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Thanks for the reply and the correct command!
Well this I realized when I read the returned message.
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Well this I realized when I read the returned message.
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16 Jan 2024 20:49 #290905
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success... just a little one, but...
with your command mesaflash --device 7i80hd-25 --addr 10.10.10.10 --readhmid
I could the first time get something out of this box
...the attached file, nothing special but at least something!! I am happy at the moment.
Now I will need to carry on somehow....tomorrow... baby steps, but steps!
Thanks for the help PCW
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with your command mesaflash --device 7i80hd-25 --addr 10.10.10.10 --readhmid
I could the first time get something out of this box
...the attached file, nothing special but at least something!! I am happy at the moment.
Now I will need to carry on somehow....tomorrow... baby steps, but steps!
Thanks for the help PCW
Sigi
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01 Feb 2024 20:44 #292161
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Made some efforts watching Tall83 and reading quite a bit. And I even managed to load the sv12 bitfile to the 7i80
Mesaflash returned serveral times "file xxx.bit could not be found" because I could not find out where to store it. Finally found out if you simply put it on the desktop then itt works- things can be so easy...
I made a config with the pcconf wizzard, could only detect the 7i80 by using "Discovery option" ...as it was not recognized by pcconf, finished and ran the machine. Worked fine except throwing positioning errors when jogging the axes, but seems ok as there is no hardware connected.
But when wanting to edit the existing config file with pcconf- wizzard I getto a point where I am asked to enter the number of ports
And no matter what I enter there I get this error message:
Is this normal, or did I do something wrong?
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Mesaflash returned serveral times "file xxx.bit could not be found" because I could not find out where to store it. Finally found out if you simply put it on the desktop then itt works- things can be so easy...
I made a config with the pcconf wizzard, could only detect the 7i80 by using "Discovery option" ...as it was not recognized by pcconf, finished and ran the machine. Worked fine except throwing positioning errors when jogging the axes, but seems ok as there is no hardware connected.
But when wanting to edit the existing config file with pcconf- wizzard I getto a point where I am asked to enter the number of ports
And no matter what I enter there I get this error message:
Is this normal, or did I do something wrong?
Thanks
Sigi
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04 Jan 2025 22:52 #318127
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Hi everyone- no, havent yet given up
But after having shot 3 Mesas, I got them repaired luckily- this took a bit longer but now I seem to be back in the race ...
At the moment I could really use some help please. I am trying to get my motors tuned but this seems to be tricky.
the motors are Fanuc A06B_522_B042_7000 with a AB06_650_B200 drive (the Mesas a 7i80HD-25 and a 7i33 connected if this is of importance)
Has anyone some experience withe these Fanuc components and probably got them tuned sucessfully?
I played around quite a bit but do not get it under control.
I just can get the motor either going forth and back about 1/4 turn or if it stands still it is vibrating pretty much.
I have no experience in motor-tuning. the smaller the P value gets the smaller the forth and back movement is.
Changing the I value does not do anything, but a small D value of 0.3 almost keeps it in the position but then the vibrations come.
Any suggestions appreciated
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But after having shot 3 Mesas, I got them repaired luckily- this took a bit longer but now I seem to be back in the race ...
At the moment I could really use some help please. I am trying to get my motors tuned but this seems to be tricky.
the motors are Fanuc A06B_522_B042_7000 with a AB06_650_B200 drive (the Mesas a 7i80HD-25 and a 7i33 connected if this is of importance)
Has anyone some experience withe these Fanuc components and probably got them tuned sucessfully?
I played around quite a bit but do not get it under control.
I just can get the motor either going forth and back about 1/4 turn or if it stands still it is vibrating pretty much.
I have no experience in motor-tuning. the smaller the P value gets the smaller the forth and back movement is.
Changing the I value does not do anything, but a small D value of 0.3 almost keeps it in the position but then the vibrations come.
Any suggestions appreciated
Thanks
Sigi
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04 Jan 2025 22:56 - 12 Jan 2025 11:32 #318129
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Sorry, for some reason I can not edit the post-
the drive is a AB06_6050_H200
the drive is a AB06_6050_H200
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30 Jun 2025 10:47 #331030
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Hi, though it seems to be rather a monologue I have still not given up
. Ok mean while the error was found- the repaired 7i33 unfortunately still was not working correctly.
Now I have the two axis working properly and smoothly and would want to be able to implement a shared handwheel for the X and Z axis.
Therefore it was recommended to do a second config file with PC-Config and copy the necessary lines to the original HAL and INI files, sonot to overwrite the original config.
And so I did. But obviously I made some mistake and get an error message when starting LinuxCNC now telling me one infrmation is missing.
Can someone help me to get this corrected please? I am not able to find the mistake....
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Now I have the two axis working properly and smoothly and would want to be able to implement a shared handwheel for the X and Z axis.
Therefore it was recommended to do a second config file with PC-Config and copy the necessary lines to the original HAL and INI files, sonot to overwrite the original config.
And so I did. But obviously I made some mistake and get an error message when starting LinuxCNC now telling me one infrmation is missing.
Can someone help me to get this corrected please? I am not able to find the mistake....
Thank you
Sigi
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30 Jun 2025 10:52 - 30 Jun 2025 11:03 #331031
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Probably important: the connected enconder is a 1000 increments TTL encoder connected to Enc3 on the 7i33 and in Halshow I could see the counts in/decreasing when turning it left/right- so it seems to work in principle and is recognized by LCNC
And I would for the moment want to be able to move the axes by handwheel without having to home the axes before.
The whole setup is a 7i80hdt-->7i33-->7i37
And I would for the moment want to be able to move the axes by handwheel without having to home the axes before.
The whole setup is a 7i80hdt-->7i33-->7i37
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30 Jun 2025 18:41 - 30 Jun 2025 18:42 #331043
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You are missing the "servo-thread" for the "jogincr" component
that is:
addf hm2_7i80.0.read servo-thread
addf motion-command-handler servo-thread
addf motion-controller servo-thread
addf pid.x.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.z.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.s.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf jogincr
addf hm2_7i80.0.write servo-thread
should be:
addf hm2_7i80.0.read servo-thread
addf motion-command-handler servo-thread
addf motion-controller servo-thread
addf pid.x.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.z.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.s.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf jogincr servo-thread
addf hm2_7i80.0.write servo-thread
that is:
addf hm2_7i80.0.read servo-thread
addf motion-command-handler servo-thread
addf motion-controller servo-thread
addf pid.x.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.z.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.s.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf jogincr
addf hm2_7i80.0.write servo-thread
should be:
addf hm2_7i80.0.read servo-thread
addf motion-command-handler servo-thread
addf motion-controller servo-thread
addf pid.x.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.z.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf pid.s.do-pid-calcs servo-thread
addf jogincr servo-thread
addf hm2_7i80.0.write servo-thread
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30 Jun 2025 21:49 - 30 Jun 2025 21:53 #331050
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Thank you PCW- appreciated! I will add this asap and test it.
Thanks a lot
Ziggi
Thanks a lot
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04 Jul 2025 18:46 - 04 Jul 2025 20:42 #331259
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Great, now the error is gone and LinuxCNC starts normally.
Unfortunately the Encoder handwheel does not move the selected axes. I can see it counting in Halshow, but the axis selected stays where it is.
I read in the documentation that the use of a MPG would reqire homing of the axis- my machine is not homed at the moment- but I thought the line
NO_FORCE_HOMING = 1
would let me use the MPG without homing- probably not, or is there any simple possibility to move the axes via MPG without homing them first?
The other thing I would like to get running is the spindle. I seached quite a bit, but did not really find out how to use the parameters. In diffeerent threads these are described differently.
The spindle is a Fanuc Servo which is capable to make 8000 rpm. Its connected to the correct Fanuc servo drive. The spindle itself only is allowed for 5000rpm. With the old control connected, I found that the max voltage the servo drive gets from the control is 7,6V+ at 5000rpm. So if I scale this to 10V it would give me 6570rpm.
As far as I know only pos voltage is used in the analog signal (0 to 7,6V) and the spindle is reversed by an additional signal to the drive unit. The 2500incr. encoder that I want to connect to the 7I33 is an additional encoder (TTL) driven by the spindle via toothed belt and is originally used with the old control for threadcutting (synch) only- the servo drive gets its info from an encoder inside the motor which I can not access.
So thats what I think currently the spindle params should be I wrote below. Is it correct- I guess not,but how is the calculation in this case done?
And how can I determine the output of min 0V to max 7V and no neg. voltage is used, if not this way.
MAX_OUTPUT = 5000
ENCODER_SCALE = 2500
OUTPUT_SCALE = 6570
OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT = 0
OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT = 7
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Sigi
Unfortunately the Encoder handwheel does not move the selected axes. I can see it counting in Halshow, but the axis selected stays where it is.
I read in the documentation that the use of a MPG would reqire homing of the axis- my machine is not homed at the moment- but I thought the line
NO_FORCE_HOMING = 1
would let me use the MPG without homing- probably not, or is there any simple possibility to move the axes via MPG without homing them first?
The other thing I would like to get running is the spindle. I seached quite a bit, but did not really find out how to use the parameters. In diffeerent threads these are described differently.
The spindle is a Fanuc Servo which is capable to make 8000 rpm. Its connected to the correct Fanuc servo drive. The spindle itself only is allowed for 5000rpm. With the old control connected, I found that the max voltage the servo drive gets from the control is 7,6V+ at 5000rpm. So if I scale this to 10V it would give me 6570rpm.
As far as I know only pos voltage is used in the analog signal (0 to 7,6V) and the spindle is reversed by an additional signal to the drive unit. The 2500incr. encoder that I want to connect to the 7I33 is an additional encoder (TTL) driven by the spindle via toothed belt and is originally used with the old control for threadcutting (synch) only- the servo drive gets its info from an encoder inside the motor which I can not access.
So thats what I think currently the spindle params should be I wrote below. Is it correct- I guess not,but how is the calculation in this case done?
And how can I determine the output of min 0V to max 7V and no neg. voltage is used, if not this way.
MAX_OUTPUT = 5000
ENCODER_SCALE = 2500
OUTPUT_SCALE = 6570
OUTPUT_MIN_LIMIT = 0
OUTPUT_MAX_LIMIT = 7
Thanks
Sigi
Last edit: 04 Jul 2025 20:42 by ziggi.
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